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Exclusive Interview With ISIS Fighter Part 2

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In part two of this exclusive interview, ISIS fighter Michael “Younnes” Delefortrie, who is featured in Clarion’s upcoming film, justifies the group’s use of children. “If you kill us…it doesn’t matter because there’s a next generation,” he says.

This powerful clip highlights the cynical abuse of kids by jihadi groups. Delefortrie is a Belgian jihadi and former ISIS fighter currently in jail in Belgium.

In part one, Delefortrie recounts the terror organization’s justification for subjecting its prisoners to the horrific deaths we have seen published through the group’s sophisticated media productions.

The following interview was given to Clarion Project just before his sentencing and imprisonment:

Delefortrie, who is from Belgium and close to 29 years of age, grew up as a Christian. A former altar boy, he converted to Islam at 16 and changed his name to Younnes (which is Jonah, in Arabic).

He later become part of the radical group Sharia4Belgium, whose leader, 32-year-old Fouad Belkacem, was the prime recruiter of young Belgians for ISIS and other jihadi groups in Syria.

At the end of 2013, Delefortrie went to Syria to fight for ISIS. After five weeks, he returned to Belgium, ostensibly to bring his wife and children with him to the “caliphate.”

He was subsequently arrested in Belgium along with 45 other members of Sharia4Belgium. In the largest terror trial of its kind, the court found all members of the group guilty on terror-related charges and meted out sentences ranging from probation to 12 years in prison. (Only nine of the 46 defendants were present for the trial, as most of the others were either abroad fighting or had already been killed in battle).

Delefortrie walked away with three years probation and wasn’t sent to any deradicalization or counseling program.

Married three times with multiple children (one of whom he named after Osama bin Laden), Delefortrie was arrested in 2017 for domestic violence and sentenced to 18 months in jail. (His current wife is serving a 17-year sentence for facilitating the murder of her ex-boyfriend.)

 

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